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Hellwolve
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Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD.
      #2989222 - 08/31/04 03:21 AM

During all this and this, I've found a better way to change an char's appearance, which won't need "enableracemenu" and thus won't crash MW. You do need TES Enchanted Editor (TES EE) and the TES CS.

Here's how:

- Either open up a mod or vanilla MW containing the new hair and/or head you want.

- Note down the ID part of the new hair and/or head you want.

- With TES EE, open up the savegame containing the character who you want to give the new hair and/or head.

- Locate "NPC_player". It's under the "Non Player Characters" tab.

- Have a good look, and find the field which has "HeadID" next to it. Change that into the ID you've noted down, if you want your character's head changed.

- Repeat the previous step if you've got hair to change. Look for the field with "HairID" ext to it this time, and ofcourse you'll need the new hair's ID.

- Save and exit TES EE

There, done. Presto! Your character has new hair and/or new head, without crashing MW, without loosing spells, and without loosing your level

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Hellwolve]
      #2989247 - 08/31/04 03:43 AM

Since when does enableracemenu crash Morrowind? I use it all the time and it works fine.

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Thepal]
      #2989256 - 08/31/04 03:51 AM

Then, since I use it, I supose...I've never had it work flawlessly. I'd loose level, system stability and spells in an combination of all those three.

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Hellwolve]
      #2989259 - 08/31/04 03:55 AM

that usually happens if you change race... but still good method none the less - its rather similiar to how I started modding

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Hellwolve]
      #2989265 - 08/31/04 03:58 AM

I have to agree with you Hellwolve it's amazing how much you can editor in the game with the Enchanted Editor. A truly great tool I think.

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Daduke]
      #2989274 - 08/31/04 04:07 AM

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that usually happens if you change race...




Thanks, I'll try to avoid that, then

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but still good method none the less




Thanks

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its rather similiar to how I started modding




Oh? Do tell

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I have to agree with you Hellwolve it's amazing how much you can editor in the game with the Enchanted Editor. A truly great tool I think.




Yup

Much more can be edited then meets the eye

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Hellwolve]
      #2989318 - 08/31/04 04:41 AM

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I'd loose level




This is probably from choosing a new class in the menu afterwards, not changing the race.

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system stability




Only reason I can think of for this is if you have an invalid head/hair object (the mesh doesn't exist or something)

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and spells




If you change from one race to another of course you'll lose the spells/powers for the race that you were.

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Thepal]
      #2989377 - 08/31/04 05:24 AM

Steal my thunder, why don't ya



j/k

And I still like my method

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Hellwolve]
      #2989381 - 08/31/04 05:27 AM

I like it, too. I've always had problems with enableracemu. I just tried your method and when I load my savegame in EE, my char's stats seem to be messed up. I mean my current character is lvl 31 and in EE, it says like 40 health and 140 max fatigue, which is obviously wrong. I just wonder if I can change head and hair and save it without my stats being messed up in game aswell...

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: prollfin]
      #2989451 - 08/31/04 06:14 AM

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I like it, too. I've always had problems with enableracemu.




Good, that's means I'm not the only one

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I just tried your method and when I load my savegame in EE, my char's stats seem to be messed up. I mean my current character is lvl 31 and in EE, it says like 40 health and 140 max fatigue, which is obviously wrong. I just wonder if I can change head and hair and save it without my stats being messed up in game aswell...




Well, try and find out...when you save, EE automaticly creates a backup, named [filename of edited file].bak

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: prollfin]
      #2989457 - 08/31/04 06:17 AM

Did you change your race?

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Thepal]
      #2989535 - 08/31/04 07:17 AM

if you just lose a level or spell couldnt you just add them again via the console?

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: watchinthewheels]
      #2989656 - 08/31/04 08:38 AM

can anyone tell me where i can find that enchanted editor.
I've been looking for it a few weeks ago, but all i could find was an ftp server with some files I didnt know what to do with....

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Thepal]
      #2989662 - 08/31/04 08:42 AM

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Only reason I can think of for this is if you have an invalid head/hair object (the mesh doesn't exist or something)



From my meddling in this area, I've found that Morrowind doesn't care if you specify an invalid or empty mesh path. My test character currently has no head, just a stump of a neck, and no error-marker model either.

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I just tried your method and when I load my savegame in EE, my char's stats seem to be messed up. I mean my current character is lvl 31 and in EE, it says like 40 health and 140 max fatigue, which is obviously wrong.



There are two references to player stats in a save game; the base stats are under NPC_ player; current stats are held in NPCC PlayerSaveGame (appears in EE as NPCs Altered/Killed by Player).

HellWolve: Co-incidentaly, I've been experimenting with this exact procedure myself; I'm currently coding a Save Game Editor that should make the arduous task you describe much easier .

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Sangdraxe]
      #2989664 - 08/31/04 08:44 AM

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can anyone tell me where i can find that enchanted editor.
I've been looking for it a few weeks ago, but all i could find was an ftp server with some files I didnt know what to do with....




Just do a search at Euro Morrowind. There you'll find it.

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Sangdraxe]
      #2989665 - 08/31/04 08:44 AM

I put a version up on euro-morrowind, as well as MWSource.

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Hellwolve]
      #2990002 - 08/31/04 11:20 AM

Useful to know, thought I never had any problems with enableracemenu.

The only thing you must be sure to do for it to function properly is never use it more than once in a Morrowind session (character creation counts as one).

If you're not satisfied with a result, do NOT use it again, exit Morrowind, relaunch it and reload your game before using it again. If you do use it more than once in a session then yeah, it'll start to mess things up.

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Re: Change PC's hair & head WITHOUT CTD. [Re: Hellwolve]
      #2990010 - 08/31/04 11:24 AM

Something different: This way, you should be able to select a female head for a male character and vice versa... you can't do this with enableracemenu, can you?

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